Thoughts On GOP Debate #4

I think by the time the general election gets here next year, I’ll be pretty damn good at writing critiques on debates. And while the GOP debate certainly has a more serious, more combative tone than the Democrat’s love fest of their only debate, #4 seems to have lost a little bit of the luster. I’m thinking that it may be time for a few people to exit the stage. I can understand why they don’t, but they’re not getting any better.

I had thought going in that this would be a much better debate than #3 (hosted by the rookies at CNBC). It had a slightly more experienced moderating crew…but it didn’t seem to matter much. No, it wasn’t as snarky, and biased as the CNBC gang’s abortion, but it wasn’t “exciting”. Oh, there were moments, but nothing that stands out. Here are the winners and losers:

Fox Business News: For a first time debate, they did ok. Not great. They didn’t fall over themselves trying to blow up candidates, but they may have gone too far in the other direction. Something between CNBC and what you did last night would have been great.

Marco Rubio: Why is it this guy seems more and more presidential the longer I watch him debate? His answers were good, though well rehearsed, and his zingers were also pretty good.

Ted Cruz: He’s a master debater and he’s in his element. It’s what is going to save him in this campaign, if anything can. He knows how to excite an audience, and he knows when to be on the attack. Another good night…as expected.

Ben Carson: FINALLY, I saw a spark of energy. It was by far his best debate to date. He didn’t just have one good line like the first debate, or a couple good lines like the second. He was “on” throughout most of it.

Rand Paul: I think Rand finally got into this thing. The problem is it was too little, too late. He’s lucky he’s on the Big Boy Stage, and not polishing Chris Christie’s shoes at this point…but I don’t think his debate performance is going to help him out a lot.

Jeb Bush: Bush needed a home run to stay in the game. Maybe got a bloop single and a stolen base? He didn’t cut it. I think he realizes it’s over, he just doesn’t want to disappoint the millions of dollars sitting in his bank account before anyone in Iowa or New Hampshire has had a chance to tell him no.

John Kasich: John proved last night that he’d be a really good candidate….for vice president. Ohio is a swing state, and will help determine the outcome of the election. There’s a place for Kasich, but it’s not at the top of the ballot.

Carly Fiorina: I think the more Carly debates, the better she gets, and she’s getting pretty damn good. But I don’t think she’s got the stuff to be president anymore. We’ve heard pretty much everything she’s had to say, and it doesn’t change. Need more stuff, girl!

Donald Trump: Can you believe I actually had to go through and look up a list of candidates to see who I had left out…and it was Trump? Yes, he was that much a non-entity. We know you have a great company Donald. We know other countries are eating our lunch. Time for you to get serious and start telling us all what YOU plan to do about it…and be specific. I can see Trump losing more ground after this debate.

There you go. The debate in a nutshell. Watch for Rubio, Cruz, Carson, and maybe Fiorina to rise in the polls, and Trump, Bush, and Kasich to fall. I don’t think Rand is going to do much either way.

Carry on world…you’re dismissed!

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4 thoughts on “Thoughts On GOP Debate #4

  1. If the GOP  does not cut the field soon down to 5 they will hand the AK princess the crown.  It is too dump for so many who offer little to continue to waste valuable time. From: Desert Musings To: ale_bee@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:05 AM Subject: [New post] Thoughts On GOP Debate #4 #yiv0478513651 a:hover {color:red;}#yiv0478513651 a {text-decoration:none;color:#0088cc;}#yiv0478513651 a.yiv0478513651primaryactionlink:link, #yiv0478513651 a.yiv0478513651primaryactionlink:visited {background-color:#2585B2;color:#fff;}#yiv0478513651 a.yiv0478513651primaryactionlink:hover, #yiv0478513651 a.yiv0478513651primaryactionlink:active {background-color:#11729E;color:#fff;}#yiv0478513651 WordPress.com | desertradio posted: “I think by the time the general election gets here next year, I’ll be pretty damn good at writing critiques on debates. And while the GOP debate certainly has a more serious, more combative tone than the Democrat’s love fest of their only debate, #4 seems” | |

    • While I’d love to see the field cut down, nobody is going to hand the Arkansas Princess the crown. Just be patient. Remember…it’s a war of money, not words or candidates. And the fight doesn’t start for another three months.

  2. Maybe we didn’t watch the same debate. Carson is still the clueless candidate who states his position, I don’t know by speaking in tongues, knows nothing of foreign policy and is lost in the woods on economics and tax policy. The rest of the clown car is still pushing the same old snake venom tax policy from the Republican 1920’s, trickle down. Same toothpaste, different packaging. Bottom line, wealthy receive huge tax cuts, the rest get shit and the bill for government. One other thing, they all want to eliminate the estate tax so their children will not have to work a day in their privileged lives.

    Other highlights, Ted Cruz a/k/a creepy uncle, what to revert to the gold standard, i.e., sound money, which will effectively devalue our currency. Guess he wants to take our country back to the 1880’s. He also keeps perpetuating the myth Congressional exemption. Since 2014 Congress is receiving their health insurance through ACA via an amendment the Republicans added to the law. I noticed he is going Ben Carson as he changing his life story or rather his father’s. Implies that dear old dad emigrated to the U.S. from Cuba rather than he emigrated to Canada. Remember Ted was a Canadian citizen. Let’s see his papers.

    Carly Fiorina, who cares as the boys are not letting break through the sliding glass door they erected and her policies driveling nonsense anyway. Hillary would kill her in a debate.

    Jeb Bush, El Jebe why are you still here? Nobody cares.

    I have views on the others that will be covered in part II.

    I have views on the others

    • My oh, my…where to start! Let’s see. First of all, as you’ll read in Thursday’s blog (posting at 8am MST), Carson has the only legitimate immigration plan of any candidate on either side. It makes sense, and no, it doesn’t deport anybody that doesn’t have a criminal past. Second…as I recall, the tax policies that are being pushed by the Republicans aren’t from the 1920’s, but the 1980’s, which led to the greatest increase in tax revenue in US history (as well as a 20 year growth spurt in the economy….oops. Sorry. I forgot Bill Clinton likes to take credit for the 90’s even though he had nothing to do with it.
      Yes, Cruz is a creepy uncle…but you don’t have to go back to the 1880’s. Remember, it was Richard Nixon that took us off the gold standard in the 1970’s (before Watergate). Second on Ben Carson…why is it Politico (not a real right-wing publication) pulled their story on Carson’s “changing his life story”, if what they originally reported was true? Reason? It wasn’t. Actually, I’d kill to see a Hillary/Carly debate. No doubt who would win that…unfortunately, you’re right…we’re never going to see it because Carly is not the best candidate (hmmm…who IS the best candidate on the left? Is Jim Webb still around anywhere?) Bush, you are spot on.

      I guess overall, I give you one right, four wrong, and one in the middle (that would be Carly). Sorry Snarky…came up failing this one! But please try again!

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